Kavod HaTorah and the Korban of the Poor and Rich
Limuday Moshe | March 28, 2024
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Kavod HaTorah and the Korban of the Poor and Rich

Limuday Moshe | June 27, 2025

R’ Menachem Zemba brought the Chinuch (Mitzvah 123) which says that if a poor person brings a korban fit for a rich person, he doesn’t fulfill his duty. He then brought the meforshim which ask from the Mishnah in Negoim which says clearly that if a poor person brings a korban fit for a rich person, he fulfills his duty, and he proceeded to answer the Chinuch with a pilpul and charifus [long and sharp answer], and the other Geonim present handled the topic for a long time, trying to answer the question. The Gerrer Rebbe sat there silently the entire time, and didn’t get involved, then just before he left, he said: ‘I don’t understand, the Yid will be missing a korban’.”

“After a few minutes R’ Menachem Zemba understood what the Gerrer Rebbe meant. And he explained that he was saying a very simple answer. The Chinuch is talking about a korban that is being brought for tumas mikdosh u’kedoshov, where the halachah is, a rich person brings a sheep as a chatos, and a poor person brings a pair of birds, one for an olah and one for a chatos. In such a case, if the poor person brings the korban of a rich person, he will be bringing one item instead of two. Therefore, in such a case the Chinuch says he doesn’t fulfill his duty. The Mishnah in Negoim, however, is talking about a metzorah, where both a poor person and rich person bring three korbonos (a rich person brings, three animals, one for a chatos, one for an osham and one for olah and a poor person one animal and two birds, a sheep for an osham and two birds one for chatos and one for olah). Since they both bring three animals, if a poor person brings the korban for a rich person, he has still brought the correct number of korbonos, therefore, he is yoitza. R’ Menachem Zemba was amazed, how he said a shtikel Torah for an entire hour, and the Gerrer Rebbe just listened patiently. We see from here kavod haTorah.”

R’ Menachem Zemba brought the Chinuch (Mitzvah 123) which says that if a poor person brings a korban fit for a rich person, he doesn’t fulfill his duty. He then brought the meforshim which ask from the Mishnah in Negoim which says clearly that if a poor person brings a korban fit for a rich person, he fulfills his duty, and he proceeded to answer the Chinuch with a pilpul and charifus [long and sharp answer], and the other Geonim present handled the topic for a long time, trying to answer the question. The Gerrer Rebbe sat there silently the entire time, and didn’t get involved, then just before he left, he said: ‘I don’t understand, the Yid will be missing a korban’.”

“After a few minutes R’ Menachem Zemba understood what the Gerrer Rebbe meant. And he explained that he was saying a very simple answer. The Chinuch is talking about a korban that is being brought for tumas mikdosh u’kedoshov, where the halachah is, a rich person brings a sheep as a chatos, and a poor person brings a pair of birds, one for an olah and one for a chatos. In such a case, if the poor person brings the korban of a rich person, he will be bringing one item instead of two. Therefore, in such a case the Chinuch says he doesn’t fulfill his duty. The Mishnah in Negoim, however, is talking about a metzorah, where both a poor person and rich person bring three korbonos (a rich person brings, three animals, one for a chatos, one for an osham and one for olah and a poor person one animal and two birds, a sheep for an osham and two birds one for chatos and one for olah). Since they both bring three animals, if a poor person brings the korban for a rich person, he has still brought the correct number of korbonos, therefore, he is yoitza. R’ Menachem Zemba was amazed, how he said a shtikel Torah for an entire hour, and the Gerrer Rebbe just listened patiently. We see from here kavod haTorah.”

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