Two Names at the Same Time
Torah Musings | August 16, 2024
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Two Names at the Same Time

Torah Musings | June 25, 2025

What about someone who has two names, Ya’akov Yosef, Moshe Aharon, Baila Rivka, Temima Malkah, etc.? In se’if forty-five, he repeats his prior claim, the Talmud and rishonim didn’t have this situation, and therefore didn’t mention it. Clearly, if the person is known by both names, both should appear in the get. Writing one of the names as the main one, and the other as de-mitkerei, who is called, would be invalid, because that’s not the person’s name at all.

If they only wrote one name, AH in forty-six distinguishes this from where the get included only a shortened version of the name, which lots of people call the person, as a nickname (Deb for Debra, let’s say; ditto for where the person has a less-used name, because still some people use that name). Here, a get written for Avraham when no one calls him just Avraham, would not work, because he has not been accurately identified.

That means, as he rules in se’if forty-seven, if there are people who use one of the names—some people do call Baila Hinda just Baila—the get would be acceptable after the fact, even for those who would reject a get written with only a person’s less usual name. In that case, only a minority ever use the name, so it cannot anchor the get.

Here, everyone calls her Baila, just that most people call her Baila Hinda, and that’s no worse than a shortened form.

While some authorities invalidated a get where the names were reversed—Moshe Ya’akov instead of Ya’akov Moshe, Sarah Devorah instead of Devorah Sarah—AH in se’if forty-eight sees no reason. He’s not willing to rule firmly, but leans to thinking the order doesn’t matter as long as both names are used, as the Torah also sometimes writes names and then rewrites them in a different order.

Finally for this time, some worried about writing a two name name on separate lines of the get. AH thinks the problem only arose for names that might look like two names, such as Yedidya. There, we are careful to have them on the same line, but if Avigdor Shneur has to be on different lines, the get will still be fine. Nor should we swing the other way, treat these names as so unified to leave no space between them. That, too, is incorrect. Next time, nicknames.

What about someone who has two names, Ya’akov Yosef, Moshe Aharon, Baila Rivka, Temima Malkah, etc.? In se’if forty-five, he repeats his prior claim, the Talmud and rishonim didn’t have this situation, and therefore didn’t mention it. Clearly, if the person is known by both names, both should appear in the get. Writing one of the names as the main one, and the other as de-mitkerei, who is called, would be invalid, because that’s not the person’s name at all.

If they only wrote one name, AH in forty-six distinguishes this from where the get included only a shortened version of the name, which lots of people call the person, as a nickname (Deb for Debra, let’s say; ditto for where the person has a less-used name, because still some people use that name). Here, a get written for Avraham when no one calls him just Avraham, would not work, because he has not been accurately identified.

That means, as he rules in se’if forty-seven, if there are people who use one of the names—some people do call Baila Hinda just Baila—the get would be acceptable after the fact, even for those who would reject a get written with only a person’s less usual name. In that case, only a minority ever use the name, so it cannot anchor the get.

Here, everyone calls her Baila, just that most people call her Baila Hinda, and that’s no worse than a shortened form.

While some authorities invalidated a get where the names were reversed—Moshe Ya’akov instead of Ya’akov Moshe, Sarah Devorah instead of Devorah Sarah—AH in se’if forty-eight sees no reason. He’s not willing to rule firmly, but leans to thinking the order doesn’t matter as long as both names are used, as the Torah also sometimes writes names and then rewrites them in a different order.

Finally for this time, some worried about writing a two name name on separate lines of the get. AH thinks the problem only arose for names that might look like two names, such as Yedidya. There, we are careful to have them on the same line, but if Avigdor Shneur has to be on different lines, the get will still be fine. Nor should we swing the other way, treat these names as so unified to leave no space between them. That, too, is incorrect. Next time, nicknames.

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